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<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left diff-editfont-monospace" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="fr"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Version précédente</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Version du 14 novembre 2019 à 17:47</td> </tr><tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Ligne 1 :</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Ligne 1 :</td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" class="diff-empty">&#160;</td> <td class="diff-marker">+</td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>306 </div></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="diff-marker">−</td> <td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; 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